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Will the World Really End?

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The dreaded date is drawing near. Are there people who still believe that the world will finally end?


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coxtown_rajan said Its a million dollar question ...

Its a million dollar question !!!!! No answer for this.
Dont worry, its endless.

 

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BlueBull said I think it will definately ...

I think it will definately end. Nostradamus was sure of it. So were the Mayans.

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tigabaguio said it will BlueBull.. other wise ...

it will BlueBull..

other wise the design of this so called earth is not logical..

it has to end so that it will be replace with a new one.. a better one..

just a thought..

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BlueBull said tiga - You are right and I ...

tiga - You are right and I wish the new world is better than this one.

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BlueBull said The signs are everywhere. ...

The signs are everywhere. Civil unrest has spread to peaceful countries like Myanmar. There is strife everywhere. Drone attacks continue. Earthquakes are becoming more frequent. Weather is acting up.My PC crashed and the bicycle remains lost. If these are not the signs then what is?

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Harry99 said No ...

No

 

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Elegance said Things are far far better ...

Things are far far better than any other times before. Communication is possible if you want to. Facilities are more. Poverty is reduced.
Enjoy the moment.Even a simple cup of tea. Because even a simple cold could kill you if it turned into Pneumonia..Let the world end when God's time comes...No use panicking about it..

 

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asterix--- said Elegance, Poverty has ...

Elegance, Poverty has Reduced??? Are you Serious???

I think, Yes World would come to an end, It has been Said in Quran, Bible....

Nostradamus, has also Predicted the World Coming to an end, & What ever He Predicted has come true, at least Most of it has had...

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Jhopp said Are you talking about the end ...

Are you talking about the end of the Mayan Calendar?

So, the world's going to end December 21st, 2012, huh....?

Since Ceasar introduced leap years in 45BC, there have been 515 leap years including this year(so im told). Without those extra days, the date would be the ~12 of November, 2013.

Since the Mayan Calendar didn't use leap years, the apocalypse (21st of the 12th 2012) was ~11 months ago... So congratulations on surviving!

 

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FathimaH said Yes it will ...

At least I believe it would and of course my convictions are completely based on my religious faith and beliefs. But how and when,Allahu alam. We do however see some of the signs and yes the widespread of tribulations and strife are among them.

"And the slaves of the Most Beneficent (Allah) are those who walk on the earth in humility and sedateness, and when the foolish address them (with bad words) they reply back with mild words of gentleness"(Surah Al Furqan:63)

 

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Jhopp said Religion aside, yes there ...

Religion aside, yes there will be an end of the world. It could be tomorrow or hundreds of millions of years from now. It is simply inevitable the Earth will be struck by a large enough object to create another extinction event. It has happened many times in the past. Then there are the odd chances of Gamma Ray Bursts or the inevitable Supernova of our own Sun. That is scientific fact.

 

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PeterGrifin said u guys are shrooming ...

u guys are shrooming

 

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Manna Pro said Everyones a prepper in America now ...

Theres a prepper craze going on here right now and its ridiculous..Chicken littles! All my nieghbors are doing it and if the proverbial $h!t does hit the fan i'm afraid I might have to kill them all and steal there supplies... in order to take care of my family..Thats the plan anyway- I'm not joking around, that is actually the plan

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GasQatar said Yes it will end, and I sy ...

Yes it will end, and I sy uggest you give all your money , your house back home etc. tp me straight away since you will not need it anymore. Same goes for all others that also are sure of the end.

 

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qatar2love said Of course, this world will ...

Of course, this world will end .. but when it's time?just Allah Almighty know
All that is on earth will perish .. Except Allah Almighty

Allah Almighty says:

{ كُلُّ مَنْ عَلَيْهَا فَانٍ وَيَبْقَىٰ وَ جْهُ رَبِّكَ ذُو الْجَلَالِ وَالْإِكْرَامِ فَبِأَيِّ آلَاءِ رَبِّكُمَا تُكَذِّبَانِ }

Translation:
{ All that is on earth will perish} Verse No: 26
{ But will abide (forever) the Face of thy Lord,- full of Majesty, Bounty and Honour.}Verse No: 27
{Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?} Verse No: 28
Quran... Chapter Name : Ar-Raĥmān

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mozaismyhero said Well that depends if you ...

Well that depends if you believe in the big crunch or not.

 

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lawa said Who knows when..........? It ...

Who knows when..........?
It might be today or may be tomorrow but it will be lets make our today best bcz if it is you can't stop it and if it is not you can't make it

 

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My Sense said Why worrying about the end of ...

Why worrying about the end of the world?? Life is too short friends.....enjoy what you have now and breath as you can.....for tomorrow may never come!

 

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LincolnPirate said The sun has hardly enough ...

The sun has hardly enough mass to become a super nova. But in 4 to 5 billion years it will begin to expand and scorch the Earth with around 400 to 500 degrees Celsius. The Earth will still be there, but life can't survive these temperatures. So, the Mayas were wrong, and Nostradamus was wrong. But if you still believe in them, it's your choice.

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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shisha202 said It will surely end according ...

It will surely end according to religious belief and as according to LP's explanation which is scientific.

 

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Molten Metal said Ended already , on January 29, 2012. ...

Atleast for my grand mother, who passed away on Jan 29th, 2012.

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chota_sanki said "the end" is already ...

"the end" is already mentioned

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BlueBull said When we say ' world ' will ...

When we say ' world ' will end ;we mean ' the world as we know it '

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LincolnPirate said The funny thing is that ...

The funny thing is that religion doesn't tell you "when". I guess, it's because they have no clue. Science can predict the "end" by calculating the amount of mass that the sun loses through the fusion process(5 million tons per second and as you all know, it's the annihilation of an electron and a W+ particle which is required to change an up-quark in a proton into a down-quark to make a neutron out of the proton), and from the current size of the sun, science can determine when the end will be there. There is no reason to 'believe' it, it's a simple calculation.

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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britexpat said Yes.. My advice is to take a ...

Yes.. My advice is to take a very large loan and go out with a bang (pun)

 

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tinkerbell10 said None of us are going to be ...

None of us are going to be around when it happens. We wont even know if its going to be cuz of a scientific calculation or if we are gonna be struck down.

So why worry and argue about something that we can only speculate right now?

And before this can turn into a religious / science bashing thread, its best for us to reign in!

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LincolnPirate said TB, if you have 100 liters of ...

TB, if you have 100 liters of fuel in your tank, and your car uses 14 liters per 100 kilometers, you can exactly say after which distance you will be out of fuel. That's NOT speculation!

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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chota_sanki said who invented science ? ...

who invented science ?

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jArsOfclAy78 said For sure the world will not ...

For sure the world will not end this year, i bought a sardines yesterday and will expire 2013..

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tinkerbell10 said LP - we are talking about the ...

LP - we are talking about the Universe as a whole and not a few litres of petrol. And please, spare us the Scientific gibberish and calculations. YOU nor any other scientist nor any religious book or scholar can predict anything! No one can say that for a fact!

So lets all stop this nonsense.

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MarcoNandoz-01 said It could end tomorrow or even ...

It could end tomorrow or even tonight...Theres no way of really telling when the world will end, although of course contradicting to my examples it wont end in a day... it will be a process...

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Rizks said Galileo ? ...

Galileo ?

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LincolnPirate said We know how many liters of ...

We know how many liters of "fuel" the sun has, TB. We know how much it uses every second. We can predict when it stops shining and collapses. Just as we can predict when you'll be out of petrol.

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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chota_sanki said The rising of the sun from ...

The rising of the sun from the west is also a major sign of Qiyamah proven by the Qur'an and Sunnah.
Allah says in the Qur'an, "The day when some signs of your Lord will come, no good will it do to a person to believe then, if he believed not before, nor earned good (by performing deeds of righteousness) through his faith." (Surah Al-An'aam)

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tinkerbell10 said So who predicted that 13 ...

So who predicted that 13 babies wud die in a fire in villagion LP??? If everything can be predicted then why cant we STOP it??? Your science is supp to be advanced rite??? Able to do ANYTHING?????

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cherukkan said What is your religion BB? I ...

What is your religion BB? I know it is a silly question.

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britexpat said LP.. ...

But we haven't catered for the Vogon Construtor Fleet bypassing Alpha Centauri and suddenly coming upon an insignificant planet in their flight path to Galambatus iV :O(

 

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LincolnPirate said We can only predict if we ...

We can only predict if we have reliable data. There are no data available on how many babies are in Villagio.

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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flor1212 said it's either the world ends or ...

your life ends. Either way, it will happen. As to the exact date, no one knows and it will never be known. It will come like a thief, no one knows when it will strike! And those who laugh now, hope you can still laugh when the time comes.

THIS IS LIFE.......Less uncertainties and peaceful life!

 

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MarcoNandoz-01 said LP: It’s all theories, ...

LP: You can only theories, estimate, predict, and speculate. But nothing for a fact or certain.

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LincolnPirate said MN, and it's also a theory ...

MN, and it's also a theory that you'll be out of fuel after you ran your car for a certain time, right?

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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Captain_Lost said LOL... I love this ...

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tinkerbell10 said Yeah rite! Reliable Data! So ...

Yeah rite! Reliable Data!

So whats the so called Reliable Data that syas when exactly - and i mean to the date and time - that the world will end???

And what guarantees r there that this so called DATA is actually reliable?? What if there is a mis-calculation? we are humans and fallible! There is no real date or time or yr to say that YES on this day and time and yr the world will end! We can only PREDICT. Speculation. !

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LincolnPirate said And when you have a plate ...

And when you have a plate full of food, and you eat it all, it's only in theory that the plate will be empty, right?

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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chota_sanki said r the below facts ? ...

r the below facts ? theories
There will be three landslides before like never seen before. One in the East, one in the West and one in Arabia. The Earth will swallow everything above it and as a result, many people will die. However, everybody will be raised according to his intentions. This will take place when evil prevails.

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britexpat said Does it predict HOW the world ...

Does it predict HOW the world will end in 2012 ??

 

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LincolnPirate said I think there is a difference ...

I think there is a difference between "prediction" and "speculation". But I am not willing to flood the site with linguistic gibberish.

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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Pink hippo17 said If it ends it ends! ...

If it ends it ends!

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LincolnPirate said When exactly, cs? What day, ...

When exactly, cs? What day, what year?? Tell me when. Or can't you?

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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LincolnPirate said "... when evil prevails." ...

"... when evil prevails." What date is this?

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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tinkerbell10 said When a car runs out of fuel ...

When a car runs out of fuel we KNOW it as we can see it rite NOW. We know that if we have a plate of food and when eaten it will finish cuz we can see it rite now....

Some people gather around and after some calculations on some data say that the world will end.....speculation. We dont really KNOW. We cant say that for a fact! Speculation.!

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chota_sanki said the topic is Will the World ...

the topic is Will the World Really End?

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tinkerbell10 said i think LP since u r a man of ...

i think LP since u r a man of science who believs that there are calculations for it....please let us lesser folk know the year and date and time when the world will end......

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chota_sanki said the evil - the one eye devil ...

the evil - the one eye devil

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LincolnPirate said I said it, 4 billion years ...

I said it, 4 billion years from now. You can calculate the date yourself.

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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MarcoNandoz-01 said LincolnPirate: and no one ...

LincolnPirate: and no one said they both mean the same thing. So you don’t have to go there.

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britexpat said Am I missing something here ...

Am I missing something here .... ??

Helllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

the post is about 2012 isn't it ?

 

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LincolnPirate said chota, "... when evil ...

chota, "... when evil prevails." What date is this?

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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tinkerbell10 said 4 billion yrs! Rite! And u r ...

4 billion yrs! Rite! And u r dead sure of this???? Can u for SURE say the so called DATA that this is based on wont change in the near future??? It WILL remain the same???? Sure????

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LincolnPirate said chota, I told TB a date. What ...

chota, I told TB a date. What is YOUR date? Don't you know it? Are you too stupid to know it?

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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chota_sanki said are we talking abt the time ...

are we talking abt the time or about the end

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LincolnPirate said TB, dead sure! ...

TB, dead sure!

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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LincolnPirate said Og, chota, you don't even ...

Og, chota, you don't even know what we are talking about. Typical.

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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chota_sanki said LP how did science come into ...

LP how did science come into being

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MarcoNandoz-01 said The whole of science is ...

The whole of science is nothing more than a refinement of everyday thinking. ... "Three things are infinite:
the universe .
human stupidity.
and I'm not sure what the Third one is.

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tinkerbell10 said Well LP neither u nor me nor ...

Well LP neither u nor me nor QL will be around that long! So since none of that is gonna happen......time to close this thread.

And that i think I CAN say for SURE. This thread will be locked. :)

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tinkerbell10 said MN - u answered the third ...

MN - u answered the third question with your second one...:)

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chameleon said Only God knows but I hope my ...

Only God knows but I hope my life would end before it happens....So eat, drink and be merry:)

 

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chota_sanki said Allah says, ''So thou wait ...

Allah says, ''So thou wait for the day when the heaven shall bring a smoke manifest surrounding the people this is a painful Chastisement.'' ( Surah-Dhukan)

Wasila-Bb-l-Asqa reported, ''I heard the Prophet saying, ''The final hour will not come until you see ten signs. '' (one of the ten mentioned was the smoke) (Muslim)

It is clearly evident from the above verse and Ahadith that the smoke is a major sign of Qiyamah. It will rise and cover the whole world. The smoke will affect both the believers and non-belivers alike remaining for a period of 40 days and night. The believers will be affected a little as if suffering from cold while the smoke will enter the brains of the non-belivers and make them unconscious.

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tigabaguio said it will end but to when no ...

it will end but to when no one knows..

like we humans, as to when no one can tell..

LP has a point, like for a sick person for instance, a person having a stage 4-5 kidney failure doctors can simulate when it can last through the progress of the disease..

as to the exact date no of hes last breath one can predict..

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Eagley said I hope so. Then all the good ...

I hope so. Then all the good and the bad people will have to kick the bucket, then we're all be squared.

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tinkerbell10 said The Mayan Calendar says Dec ...

The Mayan Calendar says Dec 2012! So all ye scientists of QL......Any thoughts on that???

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tinkerbell10 said Guess we r gonna take this ...

Guess we r gonna take this discussion to the grave!....

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tigabaguio said TB.. I believe the Mayan ...

TB..

I believe the Mayan Calendar was not base on Scientific Calculation..

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tinkerbell10 said TIG - everything is ...

TIG - everything is speculation. There is no one who can say that at this particular moment u r gonna stop breathing.

4 billion yrs as per calculations based on so called Reliable Data of TODAY. Who knows what tomm brings????

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MarcoNandoz-01 said Well I think some of our QL ...

Well I think some of our QL self-proclaimed scientific gurus and Think tanks have the wrong understanding of what science is (I am saying this respectfully of course). What mean by this is that science is not always going to be right anyway because sciences not suppose to be seen as something that is absolute because sciences is falsifiable what I mean by this is that evidence that sciences provides may be proven wrong by later findings.

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tinkerbell10 said Marco - didnt you know?? QL ...

Marco - didnt you know?? QL is the veritable pool of all Einsteins!

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chota_sanki said sheeva u will know when the ...

sheeva u will know when the time comes

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LincolnPirate said I agree with you, Marco. But, ...

I agree with you, Marco. But, on the other hand, science has gone through development. Sure, some scientific "laws" have been altered or even abolished, but the general trend is towards more and more precise predictions, and not into the opposite direction.

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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LincolnPirate said When? chota. ...

When? chota.

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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MarcoNandoz-01 said YUP, I call them QL’s ...

YUP, I call them QL’s "science fanatics" and to be quite honest I don’t find those any less irritating than the religious holier than thou folks keyboard warriors.

No, Not Everyone Has A Moral Right To Feel Offended By Just Any Satire or Criticism...

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chota_sanki said LP when u see the smoke .It ...

LP when u see the smoke .It will rise and cover the whole world

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tigabaguio said TB.. as i stated its not ...

TB..

as i stated its not certain..

but it gives as proof that it will end eventually..

its science that answered most if not all our queries..

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LincolnPirate said How can I see when the whole ...

How can I see when the whole world is covered with smoke? And when is it going to be?

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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LincolnPirate said Tell me the date, man. Is it ...

Tell me the date, man. Is it 2012 or in 4 billion years as I predicted?

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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chota_sanki said Narrated, "Allah's Messenger ...

Narrated, "Allah's Messenger Peace and blessings be upon him said, 'The hour will not come until the sun rises from the west; and when the people see it, then whoever will be living on the surface of the Earth will have faith, and that is (the time) when no good will it do to a person to believe then, if he believed not before."

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chota_sanki said u still have time LP , wish u ...

u still have time LP , wish u all the best :)

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LincolnPirate said Anything you quoted, chota, ...

Anything you quoted, chota, has no meaning at all, because you don't say "when" it will happen. If someone asks you "when?" your answer should include a precise date, otherwise it's only gibberish.

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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eigroj said december 21, 2012 is it for ...

december 21, 2012 is it for real? I need to go home before that date..

 

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