We cannot forgive her,.......

They kill ONLY her. Breaking YOUR law, Uday. Do something about it instead of uttering nonsense on QL.

They killed ONLY her! where is your justice?

Who is killing him? You said: BOTH!! Don't try to sneak away. Why isn't HE killed, too?

Didn't we go through this two days ago :O(

Sickening to say the least. What happened was pure murder! Where's the fair and legally accepted trial? Where are the evidences? Who died and made these barbarians decide who deserves to die and live?Are they the governorship of Afghanistan? And did she commit adultery with herself? How come no male culprit? Terrible!
Since the article mentions the government themselves "strongly condemns this un-Islamic and inhuman action by those professional killers and has ordered the Parwan police to find the culprits and bring them to justice". Well they had better and pronto!
Inna Lillahi wa Inna Ilaihi Rajioon..May her killing be martyrdom for the poor lady and may her death be avenged..Aameen!

I think you missed the point. Most news services say that these charges of adultery were false, trumped up by the Taliban commanders who had a dispute over this woman. Their "honor" demanded she die and one of her her accusers killed her. It's cold-blooded murder.
Mandi

So maybe they murdered her to protect themselves?

Honorable indeed.

Welcome to the Dark Ages indeed.

Did they kill or indeed punish him in any way? No - he was and indeed still is an elder in the local Taliban tribe so of course they didnt punish him.

As ever a continuing exhibition of hypocracy from devout fundamentalist members of the wannabee No 1 global religeon.

Thank god for moderates.

The difference is that the death penalty for adultery under the Levitical Holiness Code has not been applied since the first century CE. It cannot be enforced without the Jewish Temple still standing.
Mandi

But as we have discussed before the conditions for a person to be stoned to death are by itself hard to fulfill according to Islam. For one thing the act of intercourse itself has to be witnessed by four pious people, which of course is close to impossible as no man or woman would have sex in the full view of four people!
And for another thing there has to be if not a self confession and the person confessing has to be sound of mind and ask the punishment to be carried out on themselves. Which again hardly ever will happen.
And if the requirements are then met then it's only up to the ruler of the land to decide the penalty, which the Taliban are certainly not!
All in all what happened here was pure murder and no one can justify it to be remotely Islamic.

They continue to shame us in the eyes of the world, they continue to tell the world that enforcement of Islamic laws is subjective and generally at the detriment of women.

for sure incomplete & bias. It is normal for the western media to raise this issue to defamate Islam & make muslims hate or even curse each other.

Shame for muslim who blindly believe to this propaganda... without counterchecking from trustworthy sources

Well, Hamid Karzai certainly believes the video is real. Maybe you have some "inside information" that he doesn't?
Mandi

tsk..tsk..

again buddy; you answer your own question..you will believe islam condones all this because those shooters said so..but you do not believe that islam strictly prohibits these crimes when i say so..you have not ever picked up islamic teachings and read them..in another post you didn't even know that muslims are no longer all the same and unfortunately divided into sects..yet you have allowed these cruel violent people to colour and flavour your views of a whole global religion based on what they said and did..where's the justice and where's the objectivity on your part then?..it's like calling a lamborghini a bad car because some rich guy with no skill, speeds and kills himself/others..anyways..we can debate all we want but the attitude has to change from within..no outside influence can do so..have a great day everyone:-)

That is not what I said Mohdata, I did not say Islam condones this activity I said it is liked to this crime because the people responsible for the act says it is in Islam's requirements.

Big difference.

I listen to reasonable people like Fatimha, not too idiots who murder women.

It seems NATO has offerd to track down the criminals. Yet, it also says tyhat the terrain is difficult and problemsome. Karzai has said that his own forces will spare no effort to capture them..

All in all, it seems it will be forgotten in a few days :O(

The women is a victim of global politics. LOL. America is to blame for her death put Obama on trial the woman murderer!

1) Moza: stating that you rely on normal muslims like fatimah for insight has left me with no choice but to apologize for any harshness and for maybe making some assumptions as to you being anti-religious.
2) Tinkerbell: from the non muslim viewpoint; yes even i'd slowly grow to hate what islam has come to represent today..but as you state; you are allowing yourself to be conditioned by what you are being 'fed' and 'shown'. The people feeding you are winning whatever their motive may be. You are being unfair to Fatima's sane posts everytime you feel prejudice against islam/muslims..her sanity too is from an islamic perspective..focus on the good people we meet..i had this kashmiri hindu friend once who openly hated muslims because they burned his family home in the wars..we got close and one day while drunk he got emotional and said he didn't hate muslims anymore since i, his friend, was one too..that's the attitude we all need..everytime we bash qataris and their culture, we also show the finger to every qatari who has ever shown us their usual kindness..everytime we hate a religion and its followers, we spit on the friends we have from those groups..the love of God, our creator, does not need to tear us apart..if anything it should bring us all closer..and the atheists could just accept believers as intelligent humans too albeit with different convictions..no need to get on the high horse and proclaim them to be closed minded, book toting hymn chanting zealots regardless of which religion it is. Love and compassion can win anything and it will win in spite of what you may see around you.
As for QL, it's a very limited source for you to be drawing conclusions from; again a few people's comments feeding your bias and rendering fatima's efforts useless. However, thank you so much for openly expressing yourself and hopefully making others behave more like fatima on QL too haha..good day and let's all keep 'being human'

Are by far the bigger enemies of Islam.They are truly Satan's agents in disguise.Why? Because due to their evil and misguided actions, people around the world actually believe that perhaps what they claim is true, and that Islam actually condones their deviltry.
This will then drive people away from wanting to know the truth about Islamic teachings, and causes them to intentionally and/or unintentionally discriminate even those Muslims who condemn the evil themselves.
We as Muslims face many trials in our lifetimes but the trial of these monsters claiming to be of us is truly an enormous tribulation indeed!
But I believe as long as we fight against them, and do all we can to spread the true word of God minus the misquotations and lies, these demons will not triumph.. at least not all the time!

Very True Moza.....very true...

Thanks once again Fatimah. Your posts are always balanced!...:)

Very true. As the o'l saying goes "The one who remains silent from ordering the good is a mute devil.” and same be the one who remains silent from condemning evil!

Tinks: Your most welcome,habibthy.As always,appreciate the feedback!

tinkerbell10 - Thank you for your opinion, it expresses my thought succinctly. For everyone who believes this is propaganda, yes it is, it's taliban propaganda fashioned to keep the wider world at odds with Islam and to keep war mongers like the taliban on the headlines.
For those that believe people should define Islam different from such stories, you need to understand that people's mind are subjective to what they see and hear, that is why you go out and buy your Toyota truck based on what your neighbor said about it or based on the advert you saw on TV with the truck defeating fantastic obstacles, no one will give you the truck to use for a few months to help you fashion your opinion, you views must be based on how the truck is marketed to you.
The world's view of Islam will alway be based on these negative reports, moderate Muslims should clearly reject this fringe elements, moderate Muslims should not debate if the conditions allows such beastly behavior or not. Say it clear and say it loud - NOT IN MY NAME.

Dear Nite Rider, can you, please, explain to us Qlers why that part of last sentence in the verse is in bracket? Why? You are quoting from the translation of Dr Muhsin Khan and Hilali, right?

Life is so sacred that Allah Says in His book chapter 5 verse 32: " On that account We ordained for the Children of Isra`il that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole humanity: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the whole humanity..." That verse was not in bracket, was it? Why did not Dr Muhsin Khan and Hilali put any part of this verse in bracket?

Don't you think that such an important matter as life would have been clearly Explained by Allah? Allah Made his Book clear to us. Why would he miss that one out when "Surely Allah disdains not to set forth any parable — a gnat or anything above that." Chapter 2 verse 26.

In Chapter 4:15-16 the Qur`an says: "As for those of your women who are guilty of lewdness, call to witness four of you against them. And if they testify, then confine them to the houses until death takes them or God appoints for them a way. And the two person who commit it , punish them both. But if they repent and act righteously, leave them alone. Surely, God is ever forgiving and most merciful." Allah is Giving them a chance for repentance.

In Chapter 4 Verse 25, Allah Says:"And after they (slave women) have been taken in wedlock, if they commit illegal sexual intercourse, their punishment is half that for free women which is 100 lashes in Chapter 24 Verse 2.

Now in Chapter 33 verse 30, Allah Says:" O wives of the Prophet! Whoever of you commits an open illegal sexual intercourse, the torment for her will be doubled, and that is ever easy for Allâh." Allah did not say Death by Stoning as you cannot double death, can you?

Death by Stoning is mentioned in Hadiths which were collected only 200 years after the death of the Prophet. The Sahabas who are mentioned in Hadiths books were not alive when the collectors of Hadith compiled their books. Imagine how many changes could have happened over 200 years when they were transmitted.

Okay, don't bother too much, just remember a story that were told to you when you were a kid and narrate it exactly the same to a young child now. See how much you would have missed. Or, imagine you are the mother or father and your daughter is to be stoned, which one would you choose? Qur'an or Hadith?

Allah is Most Merciful and Man is cruel and ruthless, dear. Who are you to say "she must be stoned to death?" You did not give life to her in the first place.I am referring to the guy who said this as reported in the article.

As a Muslim, I really love this saying of Jesus: "Let him without sin cast the first stone"

and I'm sure some of them can sure cast a mean stone!