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Protest in Qatar!

Dr Yousuf Al Qaradawi, chairman of the International Union of Muslim scholars, had called for a peaceful demonstration in Doha today to protest against the controversial American film insulting the Prophet Muhammed.
The demonstration began from the premises of the Omar bin Khatab mosque in Medinat Khalifa. Al Qaradawi has told everyone to join this protest in Qatar. He had lead the Friday prayers at Omar bin Khatab mosque today and deliver the sermon focusing on the issue.
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Raigoki said
saw the trailer of the said ...saw the trailer of the said movie and its very disrespectful and promoting hate campaign to Islam. I'm catholic but these kind of films should not be aired or distributed since it doesn't promote peace and does not respect the freedom of others to choose their own religion.
An interface is humane if it is responsive to human needs and considerate of human frailties.
IlikeQL said
Qatari people are nice unlike ...Qatari people are nice unlike others who are killing innocnt people with no fault of their.
Attacking innocent people will further worsen the situation.
RyanCanuck said
Yep, this looks like a ...Yep, this looks like a healthy protest.
RyanCanuck said
That said, I wonder what ...That said, I wonder what precautions the US ambassador to Qatar is taking.
marycatherine said
I don't understand why the US ...I don't understand why the US Embassy is the focal point of the protest. The US Government did not sponsor, produce or disseminate the video, it has criticized and condemned it?
Wouldn't it make more sense to protest against the producers of the film/video?
That said, why give it any attention at all? By giving it attention it is giving the producers exactly what they want, or am I missing something?
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Eagley said
Yes, healthy protests are ...Yes, healthy protests are good to make the point clear.
Qatar's security capabilities are generally very good, more secure that Libya, etc. Hope that Americans in Qatar stay safe.
marycatherine, yeah, they should actually go after the producers of that awful film.
"That said, why give it any attention at all? By giving it attention it is giving the producers exactly what they want, or am I missing something?"
But the film cannot just be ignored as that would be condoning it. The protests are to make clear that such unwarranted trampling of one's religious beliefs are not acceptable.
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dawood khan said
Peaceful protest by muslims ...Peaceful protest by muslims to show their feelings and love against Islam and messenger Muhammad Peace be upon him its not the first time these type of hatred has been shown against islam
"God has perfect timings; never late. It takes a little patience & faith, but it's worth the wait."
AAlFadhala said
Indeed. This protest was a ...Indeed. This protest was a peaceful protest unlike the one which took place in Libya.
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FathimaH said
I would agree to each their own ...and perhaps peaceful protests, provided is legal, will perhaps bring about desired results in some cases, BUT please remember that at the time of our Prophet, many Muslims, including Muhammad(Peace be upon Him)himself and members of his family, were tortured and abused physically and verbally often, and yet where did they then go about protesting, burning effigies etc? Are they not then the best of examples for us and should not what suffice them suffice us? There are many hadiths in which our Prophet has advised us to stick to his Sunnah and the way of his Companions. Thus that is what we should do, in ease or in hardships.
And it's not like all of America or even all of the non Muslim Americans are in favor of this movie, so why protest outside of the US Embassy? What can they do to stop this movie being circulated? Countless anti Muslim videos, sites etc exist around the net. Are we to then protest against them all?
Besides if nothing else these protests might actually give the inflammatory movie and it's hateful filmmakers exactly the publicity they want. For even those who would not have been aware of the film, like yours truly, would only come to know about it due to the protests!
"And the slaves of the Most Beneficent (Allah) are those who walk on the earth in humility and sedateness, and when the foolish address them (with bad words) they reply back with mild words of gentleness"(Surah Al Furqan:63)
marycatherine said
So Eagley, are protests at or ...So Eagley, are protests at or near the American Embassy useful at all then? I can understand that the film cannot be condoned but from what I can see it was used to be provocative and to incite a certain sort of reaction, which it did in other countries.
Would it not be more productive and positve to hold rallies promoting how Islam is a productive, hopeful, intelligent and supportive force worldwide rather than focusing on one negative film?
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brolou said
I wish i could have taken ...I wish i could have taken part in this... Muslims are united all over the world about this. It was great for Qataris to make their feelings felt with this demonstrations.
jhort said
Do a little research ...I looked into this and there are actors on the Atlantic Wire speaking about the movie. The movie is obviously very bad quality and low budget. The article says that it was originally a movie about Christians the post on Youtube was obviously altered as if you watch it, there are huge sections where the voices are dubbed over by other people. It's easy to notice.
I'm not saying that the altered video didn't come from America or the West, but there is something very strange about all of this happening so close to 9-11.
If there is some militant Christian rednecks living in the middle of nowhere with no life but their warped views, the rest of us shouldn't even be giving them this level of attention. Innocent people have died because of one or a few peoples reckless behavior.
A suggest that supporters of these protests do some internet searching on Muslim hate films about Jews and Christians. There are tons and the beheadings are the worst. Why don't you see mass violent protests all over Europe and North America when these things are posted?
Of course expatriates living in Islamic countries are sensitive and supportive of Islamic ways because we see the vast majority of kind and exceptional Muslim people. Don't attack these people as they are more than likely your friends and supporters.
Keep Qatar safe for everyone. If there is one thing that I've learned in my travels it's that the vast majority of people are good in this world.
AAlFadhala said
Well said. Loved your last ...Well said. Loved your last words .. "Keep Qatar safe for everyone."
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salamkaratt said
The Muslims are united in ...The Muslims are united in agreement that we are not believers until the prophet Muhammed peace be upon him is dearer to us than our children,our parents or the whole of mankind,
“Say [O Muhammad]: ‘If your fathers, your sons, your brothers, your wives, your relatives, wealth which you have obtained, commerce wherein you fear decline, and dwellings with which you are pleased are more beloved to you than Allaah and His Messenger and Jihaad in His cause, then wait until Allaah executes His command. And Allaah does not guide the defiantly disobedient people.” [Quran 9: 24]
“I swear by the One in whose Hand my soul is! None of you will truly believe until I become dearer to him than his child, his father and all of mankind." [Al-Bukhaari & Muslim]
it is true that the Prophet(PBUH) has pardoned those who persecuted him but the companions of the Prophet(PBUH)loved the Prophet (PBUH) so much so that when the news of the demise of the Prophet (PBUH) came Omar Bin Khathab (may Allah be pleased with him)has took out his sword and threatened to kill those who said such a thing and Aboobacker Siddique(may Allah be Pleased with him)intervened and explained Allah is immortal and not the Prophet (PBUH)and in another instance a comppanion of the prophet (PBUH)a lady who has lost her father ,her husband and her son in the battle of Uhud eagerly waited for the Prophet (PBUH)on the outskirts of Madinah to know the well being of the beloved Prophet Muhammed(PBUH)inspite of her personal losses.
summing up ,what would be our reaction if we were insulted or our parents,or our spouses or our children,we have to strongly condemn and protest at the same time we should not indulge in any violence or shower abuse on the innocent
FathimaH said
Salamkaratt ...Well said my brother.What you say is true. And I believe that we as Muslims should be able to overcome this trial too by sticking to the Sunnah. It's only a matter of having patience and taking the right steps and not letting shaitan fool us into doing sinful,misguided actions with the want to fight the wrongdoers. He, shaitan, is truly an open enemy to us all and come in all forms. So we must be careful of his plots, and not try to repel evil with even more evil.
"And the slaves of the Most Beneficent (Allah) are those who walk on the earth in humility and sedateness, and when the foolish address them (with bad words) they reply back with mild words of gentleness"(Surah Al Furqan:63)
Mike Shamrock said
With all due respect, what's ...With all due respect, what's the point in protesting at the Embassy when some of the protesters have not even seen the video?
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jhort said
Agree ...Mike, that was what I was trying to get at as well.
One person says go and protest, because America made a disgraceful film about our prophet, then everyone loses control and starts killing innocent people and destroying buildings? Even schools were destroyed and ransacked. People stealing computers and equipment that are used to educate children.
The worst thing about the reaction is that it's exactly the kind of action that is typical and what the film portrays Muslims as being. The protesters did exactly what the film showed, which then puts some truth behind it, at least as far as it portrays Muslims to the West.
Of course, 5000 or so people in Cairo is a very small percentage of the population and therefore it doesn't show the views or actions of the majority at all.
salamkaratt said
For sure sister FathimaH,we ...For sure sister FathimaH,we have the best example in our beloved Prophet peace be upon him and the rightly guided companions of the Prophet(PBUH) and peace is the meaning of Islam and the word we utter to salute each other irrespective of being known to each other or not,and the same when we part each other,peace first ! Peace last!
Assalamu Alaikum .
FathimaH said
Alaikum Salaam bro ...And once again Well said,Thabarakhallah!
"And the slaves of the Most Beneficent (Allah) are those who walk on the earth in humility and sedateness, and when the foolish address them (with bad words) they reply back with mild words of gentleness"(Surah Al Furqan:63)
salamkaratt said
Wa Iyyak! Sister ...Wa Iyyak! Sister
AAlFadhala said
It's not America which has ...It's not America which has produced it, it's an American which doesn't represent all. America hasn't funded the project or supported it, I don't understand why are people protesting in front of the US Embassy.
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salamkaratt said
Symbolic may be , and may be ...Symbolic may be , and may be the American authorities will notice the resentment and at least do something to discourage producing,airing or posting such offensive movies in the future from it's soil,but I do not subscribe to how some people reacted either in Egypt or Libya and condemn it as well.
West Bay Lagoon said
Is there any protest going on ...Is there any protest going on in US? why everything is outside US???
AAlFadhala said
I agree. The problem with the ...I agree. The problem with the US that they have a law which allow freedom of speech. That's what happen when such law is allowed, and that what happens when people cross the red line.
Yes, I don't support want happened in Cairo and Libya too. These people are just hurting themselves and ruining the image of what Islam really is.
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West Bay Lagoon said
Law is LAW, Do not blame the ...Law is LAW, Do not blame the LAW
Ben_130 said
My personal favourite is in ...My personal favourite is in some countries where they have been smashing up American fast food joints.
AAlFadhala said
So is it OK to issue a Law ...So is it OK to issue a Law which allows hacking?
And start hacking other peoples website's outside the country and claim it as "free of action".
Wrong is wrong. It's wrong to hurt people, and it's also wrong to kill innocent people.
They both lies under one category.
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aimee77 said
Well said!, marycatherine. ...Intellectual focal point . . .
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Bachus said
The irony is that fast food ...The irony is that fast food joint franchises are owned locally and employ local people. Probably not an American in sight. Much like the protesters using violence. How many Americans vs how many locals are being hurt in Libya, Egypt, etc.?
Peaceful protest is the way to go. Images of angry young men burning cars and climbing walls only re-enforces negative views of Muslims as violent savages--playing right into the hands of the film-maker who clearly is hopping to sow chaos.
Muslims would be much better served by a slick ad campaign that explains why such things are so offensive and depicts the vast majority of Muslims for who they are--ordinary people. Not a foreigner in Arabic dress, but an ordinary Muslim in America who looks and sounds like he could be anyone's neighbor or colleague.
Sure there will always be biggots in every country (US not excepted), but in my experience around the world, most people are kind and willing to listen. Every sane person wants peace, if not for themselves then for their children.
AAlFadhala said
Good point ...Good point
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West Bay Lagoon said
Point Good (Because it is ...Point Good (Because it is always from RIGHT to LEFT)
chatty said
Freedom of speech also means ...Freedom of speech also means that people can demonstrate and say they are angry over the film. Americans (like me) aren't happy about this film either. It's not only offensive but dishonestly made. I don't like when the freedom intended to ensure religious freedom is used to spew hatred and offend others. All the Americans I know don't think this film is worth the media coverage, stand with you on boycotting the film, but not on muffling freedom of speech. Remember, that this film maker will be held accountable on the judgement day, as we all will.....(it's my husband says)........
Mike Shamrock said
Chatty, you're an American ...Chatty, you're an American right? Then you should know that no one gets sent to jail in the U.S. for offending neither a Prophet, nor our Jesus Christ.
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LincolnPirate said
Jesus and Mohammed are ...Jesus and Mohammed are prophets for approximately 3 billion people. For the other four billion people they mean nothing. And the have to right to say that as well.
Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!
nomerci said
So, are people now going to ...So, are people now going to demonstrate at the Egyptian embassies? Apparently the man who made this movie was Egyptian American, a Copt from what I read in Gulf Times today.
This "film" was released on youtube in America, where there is a law of free speech and this man can't be prosecuted. If he had done it in Egypt...well, then what?
" Those who come to a conclusion by a process without rational, logical thought, cannot be dissuaded from that conclusion by logical, rational argument.
AAlFadhala said
LincolnPirate So is it OK to ...LincolnPirate
So is it OK to start calling people fat or ugly and claim it as freedom of speech?
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Baburao-Ganpatr... said
kill muslims , make fake al ...kill muslims , make fake al qaeda , 9/11 , call them terrorist still not enuf ?
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nomerci said
Hello Babu...so what do you ...Hello Babu...so what do you think? Are the Egyptian embassies on the list now?
" Those who come to a conclusion by a process without rational, logical thought, cannot be dissuaded from that conclusion by logical, rational argument.
Baburao-Ganpatr... said
hello no merci my concern is ...hello no merci my concern is just let the Muslims live freely , always issue against us either hijab , niqab , circumcision , terrorism (where as muslims r being killed ) , insulting prophets ? give us a break
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nomerci said
Babu, yes, that is a problem. ...Babu, yes, that is a problem. But to come back to the theme of this thread...why only the American embassies in this case? The guy is Egyptian!
" Those who come to a conclusion by a process without rational, logical thought, cannot be dissuaded from that conclusion by logical, rational argument.
Baburao-Ganpatr... said
i have to check his id card ...i have to check his id or passport now some say american some say egybtian 50 - 50 yaani maafi confirmation yet, but for sure he is a shyte stirrer
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AAlFadhala said
lol ...lol
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LincolnPirate said
AAlFAdhala, look at BG. Some ...AAlFAdhala, look at BG. Some say he's a sweet monkey, some say he's a penetrant ape. Now which of those do you want to shoot?
Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!
nomerci said
Babu, that he is for sure. ...Babu, that he is for sure. And EGYPTIAN American shyte stirrer. Did those who authorized the demonstrations not know this???
" Those who come to a conclusion by a process without rational, logical thought, cannot be dissuaded from that conclusion by logical, rational argument.
AAlFadhala said
LincolnPirate, I don't get ...LincolnPirate, I don't get the point your trying to deliverer. Before that, please answer my question which I have mentioned above.
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LincolnPirate said
Yes, it is okay to call a fat ...Yes, it is okay to call a fat person a fat person!
Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!
Arien said
SalamKaratt said...."The ...SalamKaratt said....
"The Muslims are united in agreement that we are not believers until the prophet Muhammed peace be upon him is dearer to us than our children,our parents or the whole of mankind"
Unquote.
That answers many questions !!!!
For me,there is nothing dearer than my children, parents,wife and friends..
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Baburao-Ganpatr... said
for a muslim nothing more ...for a muslim nothing more than Allah (SWT) then the list to be followed ..Prophets (P.B.U.H) , parents
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FathimaH said
I agree with SalamK ...For us Muslims nothing and no one should be more beloved to us than our Lord and our Prophet. Our parents, spouses, children, etc all comes afterwards but that doesn't mean our love for them is feeble by any means! After all loving our Lord and Prophet means obeying Their orders and teachings, and among those teachings are to be dutiful towards our loved ones and to treat them with much love and care.
"And the slaves of the Most Beneficent (Allah) are those who walk on the earth in humility and sedateness, and when the foolish address them (with bad words) they reply back with mild words of gentleness"(Surah Al Furqan:63)
RAK said
Assalamualaikum Fathimah ..."After all loving our Lord and Prophet means obeying Their orders and teachings, and among those teachings are to be dutiful towards our loved ones and to treat them with much love and care"
No one else would have said it better..
chatty said
Why don't just we respect ...Why don't just we respect each others views on religion?
not trying to cause trouble or offend anyone. I believe its our right to choose what we believe and i respect all for their choice. Everyone should respect each others beliefs, they have the right to believe what they want. if we respect others, they will respect us back..
Baburao-Ganpatr... said
pls convey the same message ...pls convey the same message to the offender as he might not get this message thru ql
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Mike Shamrock said
But I strongly agree with ...But I strongly agree with nomerci, we should now protest at the Egyptian Embassy, I'm up for it :-) (just kidding!)
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AngelinaBallerina said
the producer is ...the producer is EGYPTIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Baburao-Ganpatr... said
do americans get egyptian ...do americans get egyptian nationality ?
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Cupid s_Victim said
Remember, Da Vinci Code ...Remember, Da Vinci Code movie? When it was shown many Christian groups condemn it but no violent protest resulting to death, happened... Peaceful resolution should be observed killing four innocent people over a film is more sinful compared to what the producer of the film had done. The sad thing about the protest, American government got nothing to do with the film even the people got killed got nothing to do with it... The word should be ignorance than innocence.
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Mike Shamrock said
I don't know Baburao for ...I don't know Baburao for sure, but the key is: would they request it?
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britexpat said
So, if he's a good boy , he's ...So, if he's a good boy , he's American. Now that he has done wrong, he is Egyptian :O)
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FathimaH said
Wa alaikum Salaam RAK ...Jazakhallah khair habibthy. As always conveying the right message of Islam is after all binding upon us all.
"And the slaves of the Most Beneficent (Allah) are those who walk on the earth in humility and sedateness, and when the foolish address them (with bad words) they reply back with mild words of gentleness"(Surah Al Furqan:63)
nomerci said
Brit, that is not the point! ...Brit, that is not the point! The point is that this man is as much Egyptian as he is American. So, where are the protests at Egyptian embassies?????
" Those who come to a conclusion by a process without rational, logical thought, cannot be dissuaded from that conclusion by logical, rational argument.
Baburao-Ganpatr... said
i think he is more of ...i think he is more of american so the protest to be carried at U.S embassy
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nomerci said
Babu, it seems most people ...Babu, it seems most people see it the way you do.
And I suppose, even if he were Egyptian and just visiting the US, they would still do the same. Ah well......
" Those who come to a conclusion by a process without rational, logical thought, cannot be dissuaded from that conclusion by logical, rational argument.
dawood khan said
Brit i wud support u during ...Brit i wud support u during colarado shooting as well westerner got involved he was labelled as mentally retarded after killing lot of innocent unarmed ppl but same if a muslim does he is tagged as terrorist why double standards...........?
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nomerci said
How do you know they are ...How do you know they are double standards? Do you know for sure that this guy who did the Colorado shooting was not mentally retarded? And have there been investigations to find out if those dubbed terrorists are mentally retarded?
" Those who come to a conclusion by a process without rational, logical thought, cannot be dissuaded from that conclusion by logical, rational argument.
Bachus said
One of the latest reports ...One of the latest reports from the Egyptian President is that many of the protesters were paid. One has to wonder about the true intent of the movie, the protests, etc.
Ajnas said
MUHAMMAD: He Cried 'My ...MUHAMMAD: He Cried 'My Ummah My Ummah' Response To Sam Bacile
http://www.youtube.c...
nomerci said
Bachus, paid by who? ...Bachus, paid by who?
" Those who come to a conclusion by a process without rational, logical thought, cannot be dissuaded from that conclusion by logical, rational argument.
mimiloves2sing said
One person says go and ...One person says go and protest, because America made a disgraceful film about your Prophet,....this deeply sadens me that the protesters are forgetting that it is NOT America doing this, it was not the American government who did this. It was one sick person and his followers!
This film protest that is not showing who the real Muslims are. What Islam is about. These are not real Muslims. They are only Muslim by name. If they were real Muslims, they would no be blaming all Americans, and hurting businesses that are American owned.
sick ...
Ben_130 said My personal favourite is in ...
My personal favourite is in some countries where they have been smashing up American fast food joints.
Nice mentality! This is so sad. I am American. I have Muslim husband, where is the real muslims thst show what Islam is suppose to be. Not fall into this mentality of starting riots and death to Americans for what one person or a group of sick people have done. Like I said before, America is not china. There is no sensor ship of what gets produced because of this constitution freedom of speech. I feel the US Governemnt should re-vise the constitution and change something's in it that will not allow these sick people to have so much freedom if it is going to put Americans in danger and be blamed for other peoples actions.
Salam people. You know it is not ok to attack others and their businesses that had nothing to do with this film. Shameful
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Beh! ...Beh!
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smdaman786 said
I protest against the controversial American film ...ALLaahu Akbar Kabira...
Wa Alhumdulillahi Kasira.
Wa Subhanallahi Bukrataun Wa Aseelaa.
La Ilaha Illallaahu Allahu Akbar.
Allahu Akbar Wa Lillahil Hamdd.
Allhu Akbar.
Muhammad Aman.
Bachus said
That's the big question no ...That's the big question no mercy. Perhaps it was the film-maker himself in hopes of generating more publicity for his film, because, let's face it, it was a terrible production, and no one would have watched it if not for all the protesters. In fact, the clip had been out since July, and not one bothered to watch it until the protests two months later.
nomerci said
Well bachus, we all know that ...Well bachus, we all know that politics and agendas are a dirty game.
Well, some of us know....
" Those who come to a conclusion by a process without rational, logical thought, cannot be dissuaded from that conclusion by logical, rational argument.
chatty said
And I heard from a source ...And I heard from a source that Chris Stevens ,,ambassador to Libya is a Muslim.......has been converted into muslim,,how come that they did that to their own brother Islam???..are they really the follower of Prophet Mohamad?Did Prophet Mohamad said kill your own Muslim brother ??of course not..Our God says love each other...muslims or Christians!
Baburao-Ganpatr... said
has been converted into ...has been converted into muslim, how do we know clarification pls and now there is news he has no where present in libya
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AboBaaboo said
Why is the US targeted? ...Initially coz the movie was Made In USA.
The US government claims that it protects the right of "freedom of speech" of the people. Well, that's a big lie. There is no such thing as "freedom of speech" in the US, nor in any other place (maybe only in Antarctica).
The US (similar to the rest of the world) has double-standards. It allows those who follow its guidlines, and it punshes/shuts-up those who dont (does that remind you of a certain website in Qatar?)
Here are a few examples of the US double standards:
try to produce a movie promoting the IRA
try to produce a movie to promote the resistance in Chechnya
try to promote Fidel Castro & his Cuba
Try to promote Najadi & his Iran
Try to promote Usama Bin Laden & Al-Qaeda
Try to promote many freedom fighters in Latin American countries that are supported by the US
try to promote Hitler & the Nazi
try to clarify that the 'holocaust' never happened, or make a funny movie about it
try to promote the freedom fighters of Hamas & Hizbullah
They will "have you in" even before you think of doing any of the above
If there is "freedom of speech" in the US, then why there was a war one day against communism where many of Holywood actors, producers & directors were black-listed for hints of being communists, or supporters of that theory?
When does the 'freedom of speech' start? When insulting people's sacred beliefs & figures (could be muslim, or hindu, sikh, buddhist...etc)
I hope this clarifies why is America considered responsible, at least from the "enlightened arabs" point of view.
As for those "peaceful protests", well.....LOL...good one!
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Bachus said
You have absolutely no idea ...You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and are simply regurgitating the garbage that someone told you. There are documentaries, movies and movements promoting virtually all of the things you listed. For example, the Nazi party exists in the US and marches occasional under the freedom speech and assembly. In fact the US police are required to protect such marchers. The primary exception is openly advocating violence--for example you can be a Nazi and preach Nazism, but you cannot call upon your followers to kill the Jews.
You example of the purge of communists in Hollywood leaves out two key facts:
1. No one was imprisoned for being a communist. Private studios fired employees over it.
2. It happened 60 years ago.
You really need to learn about what you are talking about before spouting such criminally ignorant propaganda.
AboBaaboo said
Bachus ...60 years or 600 years doesn't change the fact. People were chased, brought to court and fired from their jobs, or not given any new work.
Are you telling us that, for example, people in the US can make a movie to make fun of the "holocaust" or to insult the "victims" of it???
Or are you telling us that, for example, people in the US can make movies showing Usama Bin Laden as a brave freedom fighter, and making fun/insulting those who died in 11 September?
Or do such things hurt the feelings of the American people? Just like insulting Prophet Mohammed hurt the feelings of people around the world?
Double-standards prevail in the US and there is no such thing as "freedom of speech"
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Mike Shamrock said
AbooBaaboo: You're saying, ...AbooBaaboo:
You're saying, that the US promotes many freedom fighters in Latin American countries.
Could you please tell me which ones are those?
Kind regards from a Latin American, specifically from Venezuela.
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AboBaaboo said
what I am saying is ...The US supports many corrupt regimes in Latin America and you are not allowed to promote the freedom fighters against those regimes.
You are only allowed to promote the freedom fighters against the regimes who are against the US.
Best example:
You are allowed to promte the "brave" mujahideen who fought against the Soviets in Afghanistan, but you will be punished if you promote the "terrorist" Al-Qaeda who fight the US in Afghanistan
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Mike Shamrock said
AboBaaboo: LATIN AMERICA, ...AboBaaboo:
LATIN AMERICA, please! Leave the mujahideen out of this for a minute.
Please teach me some more about my country/my region since I've been living in the dark for so long.
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AboBaaboo said
you can stay in the dark ...or you can google what you want to know.(do they have PC's & internet in the dark of Venezuela?)
How about Cuba? Do you think that the US will allow you to promote the freedom fighters in Cuba, or will the Americans shut you up?
That's one example....you can google the rest
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AboBaaboo said
Some info about Noriega-Panama ...Although the relationship did not become contractual until 1967, Noriega worked with the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) from the late 1950s until the 1980s.
Noriega strengthened his position as de facto ruler in August 1983 by promoting himself to full general. Noriega, being paid by the CIA, extended new rights to the United States, and, despite the canal treaties, allowed the U.S. to set up listening posts in Panama. He aided the American-backed guerrillas in Nicaragua by acting as a conduit for U.S. money, and according to some accounts, weapons.
This is just an example to get you into the light, Shamrock
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dawood khan said
Thnks abubaboo for sharing ...Thnks abubaboo for sharing reality .................... but most of ppl believe in western media
"God has perfect timings; never late. It takes a little patience & faith, but it's worth the wait."
Baburao-Ganpatr... said
western media or media is the ...western media or media is the weapon of dajjal
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britexpat said
Don't forget Ollie North, the ...Don't forget Ollie North, the removal of Allende , the support for the armed forces in El Salvador and ofcourse the alleged hand in the short coup which put Pedro Carmonan in power and the channeling of hundreds of thousands of dollars in grants to US and Venezuelan groups opposed to Mr Chavez :O)
Now, what were we discussing ..
Oh yes, peaceful protests. Go Qatar !
Bachus said
Are you telling us that, for ...Are you telling us that, for example, people in the US can make a movie to make fun of the "holocaust" or to insult the "victims" of it???
Or are you telling us that, for example, people in the US can make movies showing Usama Bin Laden as a brave freedom fighter, and making fun/insulting those who died in 11 September?
Yes. They have every right to under the 1st amendment of the constitution. They can even stand in front of the White House and burn an American flag in protest. The people you are referring to in the McCarthy era were merely questioned by Congress; they were not criminally prosecuted in a court of law (very different). However, it damaged their reputation in the eyes of the public and some had a hard time finding work in Hollywood afterwards. Again, it happened 60 years ago; if it happened 600 years ago it would be irrelevant, because the US did not exist.
Again, you clearly have absolutely no idea what you are talking about with regard to American civil liberties. Either get a clue or stop displaying your ignorance.
lenwire said
read this... ...http://edition.cnn.c...
Mike Shamrock said
Source? Wikipedia, ...Source? Wikipedia, LOL!
AboBaaboo, do we have internet in Venezuela? Naaah, as a matter of fact I never saw one of those typewriters with a TV on the top in my life until I came to Doha. I am sure it's as shocking as the first time you saw a bathroom with a showerhead and toiletries in it.
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Mike Shamrock said
Gringo haters ...Bachus: supposedly they hate the gringos for what they are BUT I believe that their real problem is what gringos have (and they obviously don't)
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AboBaaboo said
Bachus ...It is very clear that it is you who is ignorant, stupid, but most of all: a liar.
No one in the world is allowed to make movies to enlighten the people that the "holocaust" never actually happened, nor produce moviess to make fun of its "victims". You'd disapear before you even think of taking such a step.(and it is not the magic of David Copperfield that will have you disapear!!!)
As for the burning of the American flag in front of the white house, well even in the "3rd world" countries they have the right to stand in front of any white house and burn the American flag!!!
Forget about burning the American flag or any other flag. We all know that "westerners" dont give a damn about flags, religion, God, Jesus, Moses...etc. And we all know that the No.1 "God" in the west is: "THE HOLOCAUST". This is the ONLY taboo issue that no one can deny, make fun off, or insult.
Go get your information right and stop lying on the readers.
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